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sap
02-24-2008, 12:09 PM
I have a 30g with a CurrentUSA 3ft 65 watt 50/50 bulb, its gravel with UGF an AC50 HOB, and hagen 402 powerhead for the UGF I want to put some live plants in that do not require special substrate ,CO2 or any other stuff, is java fern the way to go?.....thanks for your ideas.

Misty
02-24-2008, 12:22 PM
Blech! I don't like Java Fern so much anymore, though others might.

Amazon Sword is nice, it's a lighter green, broad leaves and very easy to grow! I got two from Arnold and the were just sprigs last summer, now they're huge.

Homer_Simpson
02-24-2008, 12:34 PM
I have a 30g with a CurrentUSA 3ft 65 watt 50/50 bulb, its gravel with UGF an AC50 HOB, and hagen 402 powerhead for the UGF I want to put some live plants in that do not require special substrate ,CO2 or any other stuff, is java fern the way to go?.....thanks for your ideas.

Anubias and java moss tied to rock or drift wood with fishing thread may also work. I find that java moss does not do well for me and I believe that may have to do with temperature. Java moss appears to do well with temperatures below 28 celcius. Some floating plants like Elodea/Egeria/Anachris and cardamine lyrata may also do well.

sap
02-24-2008, 12:50 PM
I am growing out 20 or so P.Loisellei, its got pea gravel as a substrate, lace rock some holey rock and some lava, i would need soemthing that would attatch to to the rock or some driftwood, lots of oxygen saturation and water movement as well

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w218/scottapalmer/DSCN1797.jpg

sap
02-24-2008, 12:54 PM
and I guess I wouldnt want them to be tall plants....6 inches at the most.
PH 7.0 and temp in the 78-82 degree range and a 1.25 inch clown pleco

bra8ndy8
02-24-2008, 01:10 PM
hehe.....i love that you have DFW on your pc!!

sap
02-24-2008, 01:15 PM
Anubias and java moss tied to rock or drift wood with fishing thread may also work. I find that java moss does not do well for me and I believe that may have to do with temperature. Java moss appears to do well with temperatures below 28 celcius. Some floating plants like Elodea/Egeria/Anachris and cardamine lyrata may also do well.


so with the Anubias will it do well without special substrate and c02?

biggin
02-24-2008, 01:22 PM
Anubias, Java Fern will both do well for what you are wanting.

Java moss is also good growing out fry.

sap
02-24-2008, 01:26 PM
I have read the the java fern will burn easily in well lit tank, its got 2 watt + per gallon

Homer_Simpson
02-24-2008, 02:14 PM
I have read the the java fern will burn easily in well lit tank, its got 2 watt + per gallon

I have java fern in my 40 gallon high tech with 2 55watt AH supply bright kit lights and pressurized c02 at 30PPM. The java ferns are all doing well, but that may be because I have some floating cardamine lyrata that may be providing partial shade to the java ferns.

lellison
02-25-2008, 08:40 PM
not sure about java fern not doing well in high light, but there are several variations of it I believe. Some more attractive than others. Anubias is also a good choice, as mentioned, and there are several types of that as well so you can get some difference in the tank. I really like my java fern and anubias. swords might do okay also. all of this has been mentioned, I am just reiterating :)

biggin
02-26-2008, 01:00 AM
I have my Java Fern sitting in about 3.8 wpg.... grows like a weed.