ID this juvenile fish please

[Phonetic Diabetic]

Got this little juvenile guy, doesn't appear to be what I bought him as. What do you think it is? He is Bout an inch long with tail. Sorry for the big pics, I'm doing this from my phone.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/MSinopoli78727/IMAG0104-1.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/MSinopoli78727/IMAG0101-1.jpg

[greeneyed]

What did you buy him as?

[JMatthew]

Could be a lot of things. I'm going to shoot for Texas cicihilid.

[Phonetic Diabetic]

Convict. I could have sworn it was black when I got it, but never colored back up.

[WRabbit]

rGot this little juvenile guy, doesn't appear to be what I bought him as. Did you get them at Petsmart?

I went into a Petsmart at 121 and Josey today and they had 6-7 of these... I know the store manager (Adam) and he asked me if I knew what they were. I told him he (or his dept manager) should know, as the bags are labeled when they come in. :rolleyes:

Knowing how Petsmart works with their demographic test stores and their Limited Time Fish, my guess is it's a Ram of some sort.... Possibly a Bolivian. This was the last week of this test group and new Limited Time Fish will be in select stores in the next week or so.

On a related note, I'm sure we will see Discus entered into this program at some point in the distant future.

Jim

[FlamandalayBay]

I was thinkin ram of sorts too. Sure has a sweet face!

[biggin]

I am going young Green Terror...

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=225907&sid=7e56b4399a7e0b9ded2cd78a5d5c394c

First pic has one that looks a bit larger than yours.

Could be JD but something like that...

[Oliphant]

Short body green terror. I see an acara of some sort in it.
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[FlamandalayBay]

I'm leaning gt too now after looking long lol

[greeneyed]

I'm leaning gt too now after looking long lol
Oh, I see. Go with the popular vote...:brandy:

[RichardB]

welll, it might be a juvie JD since most petsmart keep their jack dempseys with convicts. Its very easy for an employee to mess up when netting the fish for you.

[Phonetic Diabetic]

Here's a video, maybe this will help.


http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/MSinopoli78727/VIDEO0014.mp4

[spacefish34]

file:///C:/Users/chrisg/Downloads/firemouth.jpg

My vote is really young Firemouth...
So many young cichlasoma look alike...

[fishman76092]

Its a juvenile Gold Saum (Green Terror family). There are lots running around that are hybrids between the gold saum and blue acara and yours could be one since its thick like a blue acara but has the gold edge on the tail.

If its pure- the new scientific name is Andinoacara aequinoctialis. Used to be known as Aequidens rivulatus until they changed the genus and broke the 'Green Terror' group up into a few species.

[cichlidtim]

its a common jack dempsy u can tell by his face i have two the same color those ones are very similar to texas cichlids but texas have more defined spots and scales are silver or blue

cichlidtim added 1 Minutes and 34 Seconds later...

good info they are usually kept w convicts but deff not a convict and deff not a fire mouth or green terror its a jack dempsy just not the bright expensice ones

cichlidtim added 2 Minutes and 45 Seconds later...

its not a green terror body shape lil diff and fins diff dempsyd look like there nose is slightly elevated when still where as most cichlids float level

[jello]

at first glance I thought honduran red point. but im not sure.

[Oliphant]

Its a juvenile Gold Saum (Green Terror family). There are lots running around that are hybrids between the gold saum and blue acara and yours could be one since its thick like a blue acara but has the gold edge on the tail.

If its pure- the new scientific name is Andinoacara aequinoctialis. Used to be known as Aequidens rivulatus until they changed the genus and broke the 'Green Terror' group up into a few species.


I agree with Grey on this one. There is no JD in this fish at all.

[Phonetic Diabetic]

Well, I was being random one day.... should have left this guy at Petsmart.

[fishman76092]

Believe what you want to believe, but thats definitely a fish from the old Aequidens genus (now Andinoacara). The gold edge on the tail is not found in any Central American fish so all of the Central American fish that people are naming are incorrect.

Like I said above-its probably the hybrid between GT and Blue Acara based on shape. Also its likely since you got it at Petsmart-lots of cheap transshipped garbage found there. Regardless, its probably going to grow up to be pretty as both species in that hybrid are nice.

[zekni]

Isn't that the little jd I gave you? If not, looks just like one. If so, definately all jd. :)

[Phonetic Diabetic]

NIsn't that the little jd I gave you? If not, looks just like one. If so, definately all jd. :)

Nah, not the same fish.

[zekni]

You don't think he looks like Ricardo, or whatever it was you named the one colored little dude?

N

Nah, not the same fish.

[Phonetic Diabetic]

No, looks nothing like him. This one is very quick, and stops on a dime. Someone said Ram earlier, and that's exactly how it moves.

Phonetic Diabetic added 13 Minutes and 50 Seconds later...

Thanks for the help fishman760 I was just trying to pick up a nice little convict and I guess they gave me this guy instead.

[FlamandalayBay]

Believe what you want to believe, but thats definitely a fish from the old Aequidens genus (now Andinoacara). The gold edge on the tail is not found in any Central American fish so all of the Central American fish that people are naming are incorrect.

Like I said above-its probably the hybrid between GT and Blue Acara based on shape. Also its likely since you got it at Petsmart-lots of cheap transshipped garbage found there. Regardless, its probably going to grow up to be pretty as both species in that hybrid are nice.
The Fishman has spoken. It is what it is lol...Seriously though, imho if he says it is something(not could be but is) then it is. I hvae yet to see anyone stump or prove him wrong. He KNOWS fish and I would take his word for it :hehe:

[cichlidtim]

go to winnies and keller farms they have few tanks of the same fish i have two myself identical to that one its a jack dempsy

[Txredneck]

Its a juvenile Gold Saum (Green Terror family). There are lots running around that are hybrids between the gold saum and blue acara and yours could be one since its thick like a blue acara but has the gold edge on the tail.

If its pure- the new scientific name is Andinoacara aequinoctialis. Used to be known as Aequidens rivulatus until they changed the genus and broke the 'Green Terror' group up into a few species.

(Aequidens)
X2 I was watchin to see who would get it
Good call buddy

[Phonetic Diabetic]

Got some better pics, and he's colored up quite a bit since. You can really see the gold in his tail now.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/MSinopoli78727/SAUM4.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/MSinopoli78727/SAUM2.jpg

[Oliphant]

definite gold suam
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[fishman76092]

Yup-
No doubt now. Its definitely a Gold Saum.

[Phonetic Diabetic]

Case closed, thanks again.

[cichlidtim]

jack dempsy

[Phonetic Diabetic]

Lol

[cichlidtim]

this has been posted a million times its a jd ill bet my 65 gal on it

[fishman76092]

this has been posted a million times its a jd ill bet my 65 gal on it


I'll take that bet. I'll pm you my address so you can bring your set up over. :)

The first pic is a JD, the second is a GT (Gold Saum)- they dont look alike. Google the two fish and see for yourself.

[Phonetic Diabetic]

I think the give away between the 2 is the gold on the tail and fins.